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"Like, there's two old white dudes... the latter of whom I've *never* heard of...."

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"Like, there's two old white dudes... the latter of whom I've *never* heard of...."

I want to quote something written by Christopher Adams, "Court Jester of CrossWorld," guest-blogging this morning at Rex Parker Does the New York Times Crossword Puzzle, but I've got to put it after the jump because it reveals answers — who are these old white dudes? — that you won't want to know if you've not yet completed the Saturday puzzle and you care about it.

I don't know how old Adams is, but it's the usual stance over there, guest-blogger or no, to disparage the puzzle for skewing to the knowledge base of the old. Anyway, here's a (long!) sentence that focuses on the long answers in the middle of the puzzle:

Like, there's two old white dudes (LON CHANEY and DAVE CLARK, the latter of whom I've *never* heard of, and doubt most solvers my age or younger will know) anchoring those downs, along with PUNISHERS, which...eh, it's not the worst as far as roll-your-own -ER(S) forms go, and by definition *something* has to be the worst entry here, and it's perfectly serviceable in terms of holding the rest together (especially the across entries, which were much more fun comparatively speaking), but nobody's writing home about PUNISHERS.

The clue for "punishers" was "Disciplinarians, at times." The problem with that is that it's not much of a word, just one of those concocted words you can make with the power of the suffix "-er." And when you do that, you're a concocter! See how easy — and dumb — it is?

Now, let's get to the old white dude that Christopher Adams has never heard of. The clue was: "British pop star with more 'Ed Sullivan Show' appearances than the Beatles." Now, the clue tips you off that this performer is going to be at least mildly surprising. The Beatles are supremely famous, and their going on "The Ed Sullivan Show" is the most famous thing about "The Ed Sullivan Show." But Ed had his favorites, his repeat performers, and they were a lot more available than The Beatles.

If you were to ask me to name a performer who was on Ed's show more than The Beatles, I'd be the exclaimer of the name of a mouse: Topo Gigio. I looked it up and see that Topo Giogio comes in second only to a comedy duo I barely remember, Wayne & Schuster. W&S were on the show 58 times. The cute little mouse puppet was on 50 times. The musical performer who was on the most was an opera singer, Roberta Peters (41 times).

But the crossword clue narrows it down to British pop stars. It wouldn't really take that much to beat the Beatles, who were very conspicuous but only did the show 9 times. The answer was tricky for me because, even though I loved the British invasion and watched Ed Sullivan every week in those days, the clue suggests a solo performer, and the act was called The Dave Clark Five. Consequently, even when I had "CLARK" filled in and 4 blanks in front, I was racking my brain trying to think of a British pop star with the last name "Clark." (Petulia Clark has too many letters, and Gene Clark was not British.)

So the clue was misleading. When it comes to groups, of course, I know The Dave Clark Five. There was a time when people discussed the question whether The Dave Clark Five were better than The Beatles — kind of a warm-up to the decades-long question whether The Rolling Stones were better than The Beatles. Anyway, The Dave Clark Five were on "The Ed Sullivan Show" 18 times, and NPR informs us that this was "more than any other rock, pop or R&B artist."

I question that assertion. Was Connie Francis not a pop star? She was on 26 times. Here she is doing "You Make Me Feel So Young" (in a way that might make you feel so old).

And here are The Dave Clark Five in one of their "Ed Sullivan Show" appearances. That's Dave on the drums, the only one of The Five who didn't have to do that ridiculous wide-stance bounce for the entire song:



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