Title : "If even a successful businessman and entrepreneur like Governor Hickenlooper can't openly support capitalism in the Democratic primary, it's clear this is Senator Sanders' party now."
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"If even a successful businessman and entrepreneur like Governor Hickenlooper can't openly support capitalism in the Democratic primary, it's clear this is Senator Sanders' party now."
Said Howard Schultz (the Starbucks founder who may run for President as an independent), which was quoted on "Face the Nation" this morning, in a question to John Hickenlooper, whose answer was so dispiriting that I turned off the TV in the middle. Transcript:GOV. HICKENLOOPER: I've been-- the point I was making is that we defined people by these labels that- that often have all kinds of associations and baggage with them in that sense. Do I believe in small business? Of course I believe in small business. I started probably more than 20 different small businesses.That's where I turned it off, judging Hickenlooper to be hopelessly mealymouthed (and he was my first-pick among the current Democratic candidates, but I'd never listened to him speak before). He continues:
I'd have-- in one year I'd have over a million customers. I understand that. But what's happening-- I think it's kind of a silly question. We should be looking at some of the reasons be- behind why we have less and less start ups.... We should look at some of the reasons why, you know, more and more people aren't wanting to start a business.No, it's not funny at all. You wouldn't say you're a capitalist, then you said you rejected the label "socialist." You don't want to be labeled — it's "silly" and "ridiculous." He needs to speak better than that. He needs a much stronger presence or he's done.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure, but you understand it is a main Republican talking point to label Democrats right now as anti-business socialists.
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: Right? But that's ridiculous, obviously there are--
MARGARET BRENNAN: So you would reject that.
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: --the Democratic party is a big tent.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You reject that label.
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: Yes. Absolutely. I think that's not accurate. And I think that, as your interview with Elizabeth Warren showed, there are all kinds of- of- of different people making up the Democratic Party. Do I believe in- in free markets? Do I believe that, you know, you put capital to work to- to create jobs and- and improve your community? You know back when I was a kid, businesses understood the part of their job wasn't just to make as much profit as they could but it was to create the community. Once you get back into these labels, am I a capitalist? Am I a socialist? How much of how much of a capitalist I am I versus how much of a socialist? That becomes kind of silly doesn't it?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well--
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: I mean,
MARGARET BRENNAN: If-
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: In a funny way--
MARGARET BRENNAN: The other candidates were comfortable answering the question so I wanted to offer you a chance to- to answer it. understand you're not comfortable directly answeringNo, you were not happy to say you're a capitalist. You weaseled until Margaret Brennan pushed you to realize you look hopelessly weak. But I had already turned off the TV and thought forget about you. I'm only at this point in the interview because I wanted to write a blog post and I looked up the transcript.
GOV.. HICKENLOOPER: I-I--
MARGARET BRENNAN: But I want to move on to some--
GOV HICKENLOOPER: Well I-I'm comfortable. I'm hap--
MARGARET BRENNAN: Go ahead.
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: Let me just- I'm happy to say I'm a capitalist but I think at a certain point the labels do nothing but divide us.
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.You know, I mean, avoidant is not good. It's low energy.
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: What I'm trying to build this campaign around, is to say that as a country we've got to stop finding every excuse to divide ourselves--
MARGARET BRENNAN: Point taken.
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: And begin working together because we've got some big issues to make.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Point taken. In terms of your platform. I understand you support universal health care not necessarily Medicaid for all- Medicare for all. You've supported some free trade deals in the past like NAFTA. You've touted your executive experience in a field full of legislators here. You don't like labels but you sound like more of a centrist. How do you keep the Democratic party from splintering further?
GOV. HICKENLOOPER: Well try- if I've tried to avoid this all the labeling that goes on. You know, I mean....
... I'm running for president because I believe I could beat Donald Trump....Not with that low-energy, avoidant babbling.
... but I also believe that can bring us together on the other side and begin getting stuff done. And that's one thing I think that I bring to the table is I'm a doer. I'm not someone who's- I mean I'm a dreamer too and I- I believe in big visions....A doer who's a dreamer, a dreamer of big visions. In his dreams, he beats Donald Trump. Noted.
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